from pouet.net - what people from demoscene think about PyWeek

at http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=8037 i asked the question: "what demomakers think about game development contests like pyweek.org ?" - the comments seems interesting and questionable - as i asked there, i would ask here about what you all think about this.

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These guys don't sound like developers - you sure that's the demoscene forum?
Obviously, the "demoscene" is inhabited by very lonely and depressed people. They seem to believe that just because they are narrow minded enough that they can keep demoing (is that a word?) for three decades, Pyweek participants make silly games all year around and only know python.

There's nothing we can do to save these poor souls, maybe we should just let them be.
Come on people, keep it nice.

Don't make me implement a thread locking mechanism just so I can lock this thread :-)
My anecdotal experience suggests that demoscene folks like us and pyweek!<br/><br/>

My roommate was in the demoscene for a while several years ago and he seems to get a kick out of playing the games submitted as well as friendly mockery and/or cheering us on as our team is working on our submission.
Honestly, I'm not trying to be mean, but I have no idea what's going on in that thread. I agree they don't really talk like developers, at least, I don't see any threads like that on Stack Overflow.

I have to disagree with nitrofurano's claim that the comments seem interesting. They seem more interested in trying to make jokes than giving their opinion on the matter, and I don't think they would dispute that. :)
I started out in the Amiga demoscene back in the late 80s. Our group even hosted a couple of demo parties (at a hot rod clubhouse of all places). Lots of experimental programming and fun. Just like we do here :-)
it were not the comments themselves i though interesting (i also expected for more mature and analitic comments), but their reaction and behaviour in their commens - i didn't expect that at all
i'm missing Amiga too - the relaction i mostly found between demoscene and game developments were also from that excellent example of that 'The Silents' group which made those Pinball series (Digital Illusions), so well known among Amiga users..- btw, Richard, do you have information about these demo parties you hosted? i got really curious about! :)
and exactly because this about "lots of experimental programming and fun", and from the case of Richard experimenting both "worlds" (here (pyweek, ludumdare, hsp-contest, etc.) and demoscene), i got very curious about the comments and reactions we could get if we could ask in forums like that from pouet.net - whatever there are people from there having this kind of oppinion about what is happening here, or vice-versa, would be interesting when some kind of creative and critique sinergy could be get from these both 'worlds' :)
That particular thread has sort of a 4chan feel to it. You know, randomness and memes.

(Mmm. Pies. That reminds me of the pie week the Super Effective team did in Pyweek #5. http://www.pyweek.org/e/psyduck_revenge/)
Sorry nitro, it's going back too far. The only reference I can find is to a party we held in 1992.
I'm not surprised at all about the comments. Python and the demoscene aren't really related (except for Die Ewigkeit schmerzt ? ^^), so why should they even care? They'd make the same jokes about JavaWeek or SchemeWeek or BasicWeek or RubyWeek.. ;)
Clearly we need more pies. They don't have to be big - don't listen to anyone who tells you that. They just need to be crusty.
Richard, anyway, it seems to be wonderful being part of that, and the wonderful memories you have from that! :) - and Adrwen could think twice before writing what he posted above...
"We need more pies!", cries a man named Tartley.
But PyWeek is more about game development than it is about Python. Python is just one of the rules you have to follow.   
There are a lot of people interested in both making games and demoscene. Asking about it in a public forum like that gives quite a biased result.

BTW I've made music for several demos and intros.